Comments on: Why a Qantas and British Airways merger is good (and why Qantas + Cathay Pacific will be even better!) http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/ Helping airlines & airports engage travelers, profitably Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:33:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Qantas “Opens Arms” to Merger « Airviation Blog http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/comment-page-1/#comment-989 Qantas “Opens Arms” to Merger « Airviation Blog Sat, 07 Feb 2009 01:25:11 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=692#comment-989 [...] his great article click here: http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-p... TagsAir France Alliances BTS Continental Delta GA Lufthansa Mergers Newark Northwest Skyteam [...] [...] his great article click here: http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-p… TagsAir France Alliances BTS Continental Delta GA Lufthansa Mergers Newark Northwest Skyteam [...]

]]> By: Vincent HWS http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Vincent HWS Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:40:39 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=692#comment-714 I enjoy reading your discussion. I think co-operation between Cathay and Qantas will strengthen our hub Hong Kong and One World Alliance. Nevertheless, merger is a bit difficult, I would suggest some of the many factors including the prudence practice of Swire (Cathay's main shareholder) and any potential political influence from Beijing (We can see Cathay's shareholding changes in the last decade in order to re-enter China's market, although Swire is the one controlling). In addition, Swire is very commited to China. I would be curious to know more if there is any cultural or business goal fit between Cathay and Qantas. I would appreciate if Devesh Agarwal or anyone can suggest some examples or further elaborate. As for Styne's suggestion about JAL and Qantas, I personally think this is not so likely. JAL may perform better in area like Europe and Pacific in terms of frequency, but Asia, China and Middle East, as well as India, seem Cathay is doing better. I think JAL has just recovered from the problems from their merger with JAS in 2002 and JAL seems not so open to external investment. If there is no business fit between Cathay and Qantas, I would guess the gap between JAL and Qantas would be even larger. Please feel free to correct me if there is anything wrong as I am still very at the beginning stage in learning more about the industry. Thank you very much. I enjoy reading your discussion.

I think co-operation between Cathay and Qantas will strengthen our hub Hong Kong and One World Alliance.

Nevertheless, merger is a bit difficult, I would suggest some of the many factors including the prudence practice of Swire (Cathay’s main shareholder) and any potential political influence from Beijing (We can see Cathay’s shareholding changes in the last decade in order to re-enter China’s market, although Swire is the one controlling). In addition, Swire is very commited to China.

I would be curious to know more if there is any cultural or business goal fit between Cathay and Qantas. I would appreciate if Devesh Agarwal or anyone can suggest some examples or further elaborate.

As for Styne’s suggestion about JAL and Qantas, I personally think this is not so likely. JAL may perform better in area like Europe and Pacific in terms of frequency, but Asia, China and Middle East, as well as India, seem Cathay is doing better. I think JAL has just recovered from the problems from their merger with JAS in 2002 and JAL seems not so open to external investment. If there is no business fit between Cathay and Qantas, I would guess the gap between JAL and Qantas would be even larger.

Please feel free to correct me if there is anything wrong as I am still very at the beginning stage in learning more about the industry. Thank you very much.

]]> By: Devesh Agarwal http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/comment-page-1/#comment-590 Devesh Agarwal Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:37:53 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=692#comment-590 Cathay and Qantas do not have the cultural or business goal fit. Added to this, as the recently failed BA merger talks demonstrate, Qantas wants to be the dominant partner, which Cathay will not accept. I have written an article, http://aviation.deveshagarwal.com/2008/12/real-deal-for-qantas-malaysian-airlines.html about an Asian airline that is exploring talks, one with whom there can be real possibilities. Malaysian. Cathay and Qantas do not have the cultural or business goal fit. Added to this, as the recently failed BA merger talks demonstrate, Qantas wants to be the dominant partner, which Cathay will not accept. I have written an article, http://aviation.deveshagarwal.com/2008/12/real-deal-for-qantas-malaysian-airlines.html about an Asian airline that is exploring talks, one with whom there can be real possibilities. Malaysian.

]]> By: shaq http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/comment-page-1/#comment-582 shaq Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:16:51 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=692#comment-582 First of all , Congratulations for your milestone. Ok , I really understand your point, something they can also do , is make extensive code-sharing ( a la Continental with UA ) , because mergers aren't easy for employees neither for shareholder , etc etc . Cathay make a loss in the last quarter due to high fuel prices and the recession , but both are really profitable. CX and QF can make a nice tie-up , a very succesful merger , or just stand alone First of all , Congratulations for your milestone.
Ok , I really understand your point, something they can also do , is make extensive code-sharing ( a la Continental with UA ) , because mergers aren’t easy for employees neither for shareholder , etc etc .
Cathay make a loss in the last quarter due to high fuel prices and the recession , but both are really profitable.
CX and QF can make a nice tie-up , a very succesful merger , or just stand alone

]]> By: Shashank Nigam http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/comment-page-1/#comment-423 Shashank Nigam Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:49:06 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=692#comment-423 @Styne: Very interesting thought. JAL-Qantas is something I didn't originally think of, but now that you mention it, I think it might be worthy of some analysis too. I'm curious if you're familiar with JAL's growth strategy? Does it make sense for them to have a South Pacific partner? @Styne: Very interesting thought. JAL-Qantas is something I didn’t originally think of, but now that you mention it, I think it might be worthy of some analysis too. I’m curious if you’re familiar with JAL’s growth strategy? Does it make sense for them to have a South Pacific partner?

]]> By: Styne http://simpliflying.com/2008/why-a-qantas-and-british-airways-merger-is-good-and-why-qantas-cathay-pacific-will-be-even-better/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Styne Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:18:57 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=692#comment-391 Good perspectives. Do you think a JAL-Qantas merger makes more sense than Cathay-Qantas, if Asia-Pacific domination is what you're looking for? Good perspectives. Do you think a JAL-Qantas merger makes more sense than Cathay-Qantas, if Asia-Pacific domination is what you’re looking for?

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