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		<title>By: expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being from the eastern part of the old continent I have grown accustomed to the thought that the poor customer service one can oftentimes experience here is the legacy of the communist past as opposed  to the customer service culture in  the United States satysfying the customer demands is the key focus. So this story here comes as a shock to me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;greetings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being from the eastern part of the old continent I have grown accustomed to the thought that the poor customer service one can oftentimes experience here is the legacy of the communist past as opposed  to the customer service culture in  the United States satysfying the customer demands is the key focus. So this story here comes as a shock to me.</p>
<p>greetings</p>
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		<title>By: sri</title>
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		<dc:creator>sri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was just pulled off a united airlines flight because they refused to discern and act between a consumer issue and a security threat. i asked for a manager and what i got instead was someone from homeland security, so much for managerial finesse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;what is remarkable about the airline industry now is how closely aligned to the state power they are. airline workers have absolute immunity, they can treat you any way they want and if you speak up as a consumer you are tagged as a security threat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;this is corpratism...i got a first hand dose and it&#039;s pretty scary what they are willing to do and how little recourse you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was just pulled off a united airlines flight because they refused to discern and act between a consumer issue and a security threat. i asked for a manager and what i got instead was someone from homeland security, so much for managerial finesse.</p>
<p>what is remarkable about the airline industry now is how closely aligned to the state power they are. airline workers have absolute immunity, they can treat you any way they want and if you speak up as a consumer you are tagged as a security threat.</p>
<p>this is corpratism&#8230;i got a first hand dose and it&#39;s pretty scary what they are willing to do and how little recourse you have.</p>
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		<title>By: United Airlines: A Dying Mom, and the Unkindness of Strangers &#124; « ex-United »</title>
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		<dc:creator>United Airlines: A Dying Mom, and the Unkindness of Strangers &#124; « ex-United »</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was reported first in The Consumerist, and picked up later by Shashank Nigam in his excellent blog, SimpliFlying:  A United Airlines customer with Premier status (&#8220;Mike&#8221;) was assisting his girlfriend [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was reported first in The Consumerist, and picked up later by Shashank Nigam in his excellent blog, SimpliFlying:  A United Airlines customer with Premier status (&#8220;Mike&#8221;) was assisting his girlfriend [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alex1113</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex1113</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great photos</description>
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		<title>By: JeanetteV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeanetteV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally if I could I would avoid all the major airlines in the US of A. The smaller airlines still view the work they do as a service with the result it is a lot more pleasant to fly any of the smaller airlines.  &lt;br&gt;Ever since 9/11 the staff working for the major airlines started treating most everyone that flies like a criminal especially if you are one of those poor people that cannot afford to fly a 100k a year. Service on the flight is bad to non-existing and the &#039;box food&#039; on United I would not feed to my dog. One would think with the economy as it is and the stress added due to the additional controls, they would do their best to treat the people well. So, what came first? The chicken or the egg - the rude airline staff or the rude passengers?  Hmmm... I wonder! With that said, isn&#039;t it still the airline staff&#039;s job to &#039;serve&#039; the customers to the best of their ability?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally if I could I would avoid all the major airlines in the US of A. The smaller airlines still view the work they do as a service with the result it is a lot more pleasant to fly any of the smaller airlines.  <br />Ever since 9/11 the staff working for the major airlines started treating most everyone that flies like a criminal especially if you are one of those poor people that cannot afford to fly a 100k a year. Service on the flight is bad to non-existing and the &#39;box food&#39; on United I would not feed to my dog. One would think with the economy as it is and the stress added due to the additional controls, they would do their best to treat the people well. So, what came first? The chicken or the egg &#8211; the rude airline staff or the rude passengers?  Hmmm&#8230; I wonder! With that said, isn&#39;t it still the airline staff&#39;s job to &#39;serve&#39; the customers to the best of their ability?</p>
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		<title>By: SimpliFlying &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Singapore Airlines converts the biggest critics into its strongest brand advocates</title>
		<link>http://simpliflying.com/2009/united-airlines-shows-how-not-to-fly-the-friendly-skies-a-very-sad-incident/comment-page-2/#comment-2003</link>
		<dc:creator>SimpliFlying &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Singapore Airlines converts the biggest critics into its strongest brand advocates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most Popular United Airlines shows how NOT to &#8220;fly the friendly skies&#8221;. A very sad incident. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Most Popular United Airlines shows how NOT to &#8220;fly the friendly skies&#8221;. A very sad incident. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shashank Nigam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shashank Nigam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vinithra: Well, I don&#039;t think so. Or at least I haven&#039;t heard of such an incident yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vinithra: Well, I don&#8217;t think so. Or at least I haven&#8217;t heard of such an incident yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinithra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinithra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 02:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure puts me off United! Does United respond to such highly publicized bad PR incidents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure puts me off United! Does United respond to such highly publicized bad PR incidents?</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to share an email I sent to United regarding an incident yesterday 4/27, involving a United agent yelling at an elderly woman who could not walk.

Below is my email: 

Customer service offered by Shawn/Sean at IAD, gate A3/4 on 4/27 at approx 10pm was unacceptable. I have flown all over the world, and been on hundreds of airplanes, but this was by far the rudest encounter I have ever experienced. According to your web-site&#039;s customer service promise, &quot;In the air and on the ground, online and on the telephone, our customers have the right to expect — to demand — respect, courtesy, fairness and honesty from the airline they have selected for travel.&quot; Shawn was disrespectful to a women his senior, a woman who PAID to fly with your company. He was NOT courteous nor was he fair. I was looking through the 12 points for customer commitment...are these just to save face or does your company really uphold these standards? If they are for real, then step number 7 needs to be shown to Shawn/Sean. 

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1512,00.html 

7. Readily, Capably and Respectfully Accommodate Travelers with Special Needs

United’s commitment:

We will provide our customers who have special needs, including individuals with disabilities and unaccompanied minors, with the level of attention, respect and care they deserve.

Below is the encounter btwn Shawn and the elderly lady who couldn&#039;t walk (he yelled at her). 

A flight to Allentown was overbooked/overweight so they bumped 8 people. Shawn announced they would bump all those who paid the cheapest fair price. One of those people was an elderly lady who couldn&#039;t walk. She had two medical bracelets on her arm, one pink and the other yellow. One said &quot;fall risk.&quot; She was told a wheelchair was coming to get her and take her to customer service where she could get on another flight the following morning. When no one showed up she asked a United agent about it when he walked by. He blew her off. She began to get visibly flustered. She got out an inhaler and used it twice. A few minutes later, another passenger reminded Shawn the lady needed a wheelchair, he said one was on it&#039;s way. At this point it had been almost 30 minutes, and still no wheelchair. The lady began to get more flustered and started to shake, muttering about how she needed to get home to her son. She took out a portable machine and wrapped it around her wrist. I believe it was a blood pressure machine, because she said she needed water to take her blood pressure medicine. Shawn then yelled across the room at her, saying  he told her 30 minutes ago to go to customer service - there was still no wheelchair. She said again that she needed water to take her blood pressure medicine, and he yelled again to go to customer service - STILL no wheelchair. This lady could NOT WALK. How was she supposed to get to customer service? She was waiting for United to provide her the services she required, but instead she is humiliated in front of other passengers. So a few ladies, myself included, went to help her. I got her water. She was shaking so badly that she could barely get the pills and water in her mouth. She spilled it on herself, the chair and the floor because she was shaking so severely. She was slightly disoriented from her blood pressure getting so high and was also beginning to sweat. Shawn never once helped or treated this elderly woman like a human being.

I am APPALLED that your airline would allow this to happen. She had someone escorting her during her other flights, and then because she was bumped, she is left high and dry? This is unacceptable. To treat a helpless, handicapped woman, who cannot walk and obviously has medical problems is an atrocity. I have emailed, twittered and facebooked about this and I plan to continue to. I want everyone to know how United treats it&#039;s disabled passengers. It is unacceptable. Shawn needs to be punished or fired. If you claim you don&#039;t know who I am talking about, I took a photo of him with my phone, so there is no confusion. Here is a link to the photo: http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/emtravis/?action=view&amp;current=UnitedShawn.jpg. 

For Shawn to humiliate this woman the way he did is unacceptable. I have only flown United a few times, and every single time I have been delayed going out of IAD. But the way your personnel treated a PAYING DISABLED passenger has sealed the deal for me. I will never fly United again. And I will NEVER suggest it to anyone. I have already told a number of my friends this story and they have agreed that they cannot fly an airline who treats people this way. 

United needs to review the 12 points with their agents. I have never seen such disrespect by any other airline. A number of the passengers on my flight 8009 to Richmond said they plan to write and call as well. I plan to report this event on any other website I can. It is unacceptable. I would be glad to talk to someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to share an email I sent to United regarding an incident yesterday 4/27, involving a United agent yelling at an elderly woman who could not walk.</p>
<p>Below is my email: </p>
<p>Customer service offered by Shawn/Sean at IAD, gate A3/4 on 4/27 at approx 10pm was unacceptable. I have flown all over the world, and been on hundreds of airplanes, but this was by far the rudest encounter I have ever experienced. According to your web-site&#8217;s customer service promise, &#8220;In the air and on the ground, online and on the telephone, our customers have the right to expect — to demand — respect, courtesy, fairness and honesty from the airline they have selected for travel.&#8221; Shawn was disrespectful to a women his senior, a woman who PAID to fly with your company. He was NOT courteous nor was he fair. I was looking through the 12 points for customer commitment&#8230;are these just to save face or does your company really uphold these standards? If they are for real, then step number 7 needs to be shown to Shawn/Sean. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1512,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1512,00.html</a> </p>
<p>7. Readily, Capably and Respectfully Accommodate Travelers with Special Needs</p>
<p>United’s commitment:</p>
<p>We will provide our customers who have special needs, including individuals with disabilities and unaccompanied minors, with the level of attention, respect and care they deserve.</p>
<p>Below is the encounter btwn Shawn and the elderly lady who couldn&#8217;t walk (he yelled at her). </p>
<p>A flight to Allentown was overbooked/overweight so they bumped 8 people. Shawn announced they would bump all those who paid the cheapest fair price. One of those people was an elderly lady who couldn&#8217;t walk. She had two medical bracelets on her arm, one pink and the other yellow. One said &#8220;fall risk.&#8221; She was told a wheelchair was coming to get her and take her to customer service where she could get on another flight the following morning. When no one showed up she asked a United agent about it when he walked by. He blew her off. She began to get visibly flustered. She got out an inhaler and used it twice. A few minutes later, another passenger reminded Shawn the lady needed a wheelchair, he said one was on it&#8217;s way. At this point it had been almost 30 minutes, and still no wheelchair. The lady began to get more flustered and started to shake, muttering about how she needed to get home to her son. She took out a portable machine and wrapped it around her wrist. I believe it was a blood pressure machine, because she said she needed water to take her blood pressure medicine. Shawn then yelled across the room at her, saying  he told her 30 minutes ago to go to customer service &#8211; there was still no wheelchair. She said again that she needed water to take her blood pressure medicine, and he yelled again to go to customer service &#8211; STILL no wheelchair. This lady could NOT WALK. How was she supposed to get to customer service? She was waiting for United to provide her the services she required, but instead she is humiliated in front of other passengers. So a few ladies, myself included, went to help her. I got her water. She was shaking so badly that she could barely get the pills and water in her mouth. She spilled it on herself, the chair and the floor because she was shaking so severely. She was slightly disoriented from her blood pressure getting so high and was also beginning to sweat. Shawn never once helped or treated this elderly woman like a human being.</p>
<p>I am APPALLED that your airline would allow this to happen. She had someone escorting her during her other flights, and then because she was bumped, she is left high and dry? This is unacceptable. To treat a helpless, handicapped woman, who cannot walk and obviously has medical problems is an atrocity. I have emailed, twittered and facebooked about this and I plan to continue to. I want everyone to know how United treats it&#8217;s disabled passengers. It is unacceptable. Shawn needs to be punished or fired. If you claim you don&#8217;t know who I am talking about, I took a photo of him with my phone, so there is no confusion. Here is a link to the photo: <a href="http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/emtravis/?action=view&#038;current=UnitedShawn.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/emtravis/?action=view&#038;current=UnitedShawn.jpg</a>. </p>
<p>For Shawn to humiliate this woman the way he did is unacceptable. I have only flown United a few times, and every single time I have been delayed going out of IAD. But the way your personnel treated a PAYING DISABLED passenger has sealed the deal for me. I will never fly United again. And I will NEVER suggest it to anyone. I have already told a number of my friends this story and they have agreed that they cannot fly an airline who treats people this way. </p>
<p>United needs to review the 12 points with their agents. I have never seen such disrespect by any other airline. A number of the passengers on my flight 8009 to Richmond said they plan to write and call as well. I plan to report this event on any other website I can. It is unacceptable. I would be glad to talk to someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Frawley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Frawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree mostly with David.  The bigger point that seems to have gotten lost is that this entire post and comments revolve around one (1) incident (told from one side) as some sort of &quot;tell all&quot; bellwether.  Terrible customer experiences with businesses aren&#039;t rare at all - and neither are exceptionally good ones.

It&#039;s the consistency (or inconsistency) of experience good or bad with a single company that tells the real story.

Clearly there&#039;s a lot of pent up emotion around bad airline experiences (and UA in particular) that help explain the length of this piece.  Rightly or wrongly it&#039;s touched a nerve.

I wonder what the reaction would have been if the post were about an amazingly good experience with United?  (my guess - it would have been passed off as an anomaly or fluke).  In the end I guess that tells us all something about the UA brand &#039;state of health.&quot;  Ah, the disconnect between reality and perception... (there&#039;s no science here...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree mostly with David.  The bigger point that seems to have gotten lost is that this entire post and comments revolve around one (1) incident (told from one side) as some sort of &#8220;tell all&#8221; bellwether.  Terrible customer experiences with businesses aren&#8217;t rare at all &#8211; and neither are exceptionally good ones.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the consistency (or inconsistency) of experience good or bad with a single company that tells the real story.</p>
<p>Clearly there&#8217;s a lot of pent up emotion around bad airline experiences (and UA in particular) that help explain the length of this piece.  Rightly or wrongly it&#8217;s touched a nerve.</p>
<p>I wonder what the reaction would have been if the post were about an amazingly good experience with United?  (my guess &#8211; it would have been passed off as an anomaly or fluke).  In the end I guess that tells us all something about the UA brand &#8216;state of health.&#8221;  Ah, the disconnect between reality and perception&#8230; (there&#8217;s no science here&#8230;)</p>
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