Comments on: Will the Dubai crises lead to a mega Emirates + Etihad airline brand? http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/ Helping airlines & airports engage travelers, profitably Sun, 22 Apr 2012 04:02:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: Will the Dubai crises lead to a mega Emirates + Etihad airline brand? « Havayolu 101 http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-3542 Will the Dubai crises lead to a mega Emirates + Etihad airline brand? « Havayolu 101 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:21:12 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-3542 [...] Will the Dubai crises lead to a mega Emirates + Etihad airline brand? [...] [...] Will the Dubai crises lead to a mega Emirates + Etihad airline brand? [...]

]]> By: Matt http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-3536 Matt Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:01:30 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-3536 The old Gulf Air fell apart because it didn't make logistical sense to operate a single regional airline with so many neighboring hubs (Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Doha and Muscat), combined with an equal number of local actors with both pride and ambition on their side. More importantly, they were no match for Emirates.<br><br>Gulf's spinoffs such as Etihad and Qatar have succeeded because they are more like Emirates, with single hubs, single leadership, single organization and single focus.<br><br>As tempting as it may be due to current economic pressure, any merger between Emirates and Etihad (with hub airports just over 120km apart) would wind up looking more like the old Gulf. The old Gulf Air fell apart because it didn't make logistical sense to operate a single regional airline with so many neighboring hubs (Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Doha and Muscat), combined with an equal number of local actors with both pride and ambition on their side. More importantly, they were no match for Emirates.

Gulf's spinoffs such as Etihad and Qatar have succeeded because they are more like Emirates, with single hubs, single leadership, single organization and single focus.

As tempting as it may be due to current economic pressure, any merger between Emirates and Etihad (with hub airports just over 120km apart) would wind up looking more like the old Gulf.

]]> By: Azhar1 http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-3302 Azhar1 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:49:30 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-3302 What does the renaming of World's Tallest Structure in Dubai from Burj Dubai to Burj Khalifa indciate. What does the renaming of World's Tallest Structure in Dubai from Burj Dubai to Burj Khalifa indciate.

]]> By: andrew drysdale http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4949 andrew drysdale Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:32:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4949 Won't happen. The cultural and political pressures are too great. And it is difficult to see the strategic advantages.Two strong and well funded carriers in competition will do more for the region's economy than one large airline with no local competitive pressures. Andrew Won’t happen. The cultural and political pressures are too great. And it is difficult to see the strategic advantages.Two strong and well funded carriers in competition will do more for the region’s economy than one large airline with no local competitive pressures.
Andrew

]]> By: Claude Fortin, ame http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4947 Claude Fortin, ame Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:31:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4947 I am with Mike on this. Abu Dhabi and Dubai are like two different sovereign territory (although in the UAE) and in that sense, are indeed competing to the highest of degree. That being said, i read more than once that part of Dubai Bail-out by Abu Dhabi would be garanteed by stakes in Emirates Airlines, if it came to that. We'll wait and see. See you in Singapore Shashank!! I am with Mike on this. Abu Dhabi and Dubai are like two different sovereign territory (although in the UAE) and in that sense, are indeed competing to the highest of degree. That being said, i read more than once that part of Dubai Bail-out by Abu Dhabi would be garanteed by stakes in Emirates Airlines, if it came to that. We’ll wait and see.
See you in Singapore Shashank!!

]]> By: Alan Peaford http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4948 Alan Peaford Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:31:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4948 Interesting - but my money would be on them both retaining separate brands even if there is (or has been already) a financial investment. Although there is a great rivalry there is also a great deal of respect between the two emirates at the highest level. Interesting – but my money would be on them both retaining separate brands even if there is (or has been already) a financial investment.
Although there is a great rivalry there is also a great deal of respect between the two emirates at the highest level.

]]> By: Mike Miguel http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4946 Mike Miguel Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:30:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4946 Very possible from a financial perspective, however both cities compete at every single level, same country but a big rivality exist between both of them. Very known that Abu Dhabi is very much financially stable compared to bubble Dubai If it comes to national interest, it could be happening. Mike Very possible from a financial perspective, however both cities compete at every single level, same country but a big rivality exist between both of them.

Very known that Abu Dhabi is very much financially stable compared to bubble Dubai

If it comes to national interest, it could be happening.
Mike

]]> By: Rrajesh Ahuja http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4941 Rrajesh Ahuja Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:30:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4941 Emirates and Etihad Airlines have their respective networks almost similar to each other. Etihad seems to be slowly following suit and philosophizing long term policy similar to Emirates. As a professional from the aviation industry, having worked for a major European Airlines in a senior position, my hunch is Etihad is mobilizing its resources to increase pace and compete for its own global market share by strengthening its network more so on potential sectors in Europe and Asia which looking on a wider spectrum would be less in competition with Emirates but more so a compliment. Emirates has its revenues increasing on the growth graph will do utmost to block off any such thought! Emirates and Etihad Airlines have their respective networks almost similar to each other. Etihad seems to be slowly following suit and philosophizing long term policy similar to Emirates. As a professional from the aviation industry, having worked for a major European Airlines in a senior position, my hunch is Etihad is mobilizing its resources to increase pace and compete for its own global market share by strengthening its network more so on potential sectors in Europe and Asia which looking on a wider spectrum would be less in competition with Emirates but more so a compliment. Emirates has its revenues increasing on the growth graph will do utmost to block off any such thought!

]]> By: Ron Chow http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4932 Ron Chow Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:51:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4932 Heard of this merger as well, quite a while back and thought it was just rumors. Well it's not entirely far-fetched, the crown jewel of Dubai is Emirates (Read 'only bargaining chip') for a full cash bail-out from her lesser known richer sister abu dhabi. Time will tell, after 2008 - nothing is too far-fetched. Heard of this merger as well, quite a while back and thought it was just rumors. Well it’s not entirely far-fetched, the crown jewel of Dubai is Emirates (Read ‘only bargaining chip’) for a full cash bail-out from her lesser known richer sister abu dhabi. Time will tell, after 2008 – nothing is too far-fetched.

]]> By: Matt Radack http://simpliflying.com/2009/will-the-dubai-crises-lead-to-a-mega-emirates-etihad-airline-brand/comment-page-1/#comment-4933 Matt Radack Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:51:00 +0000 http://simpliflying.com/?p=1766#comment-4933 The old Gulf Air fell apart because it didn't make logistical sense to operate a single regional airline with so many neighboring hubs (Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Doha and Muscat), combined with an equal number of local actors with both pride and ambition on their side. More importantly, they were no match for Emirates. Gulf's spinoffs such as Etihad and Qatar have succeeded because they are more like Emirates, with single hubs, single leadership, single organization and single focus. As tempting as it may be due to current economic pressure, any merger between Emirates and Etihad (with hub airports just over 120km apart) would wind up looking more like the old Gulf. The old Gulf Air fell apart because it didn’t make logistical sense to operate a single regional airline with so many neighboring hubs (Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Doha and Muscat), combined with an equal number of local actors with both pride and ambition on their side. More importantly, they were no match for Emirates.

Gulf’s spinoffs such as Etihad and Qatar have succeeded because they are more like Emirates, with single hubs, single leadership, single organization and single focus.

As tempting as it may be due to current economic pressure, any merger between Emirates and Etihad (with hub airports just over 120km apart) would wind up looking more like the old Gulf.

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